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502 Hemp Founder and CEO

Dee Dee started 502 Hemp to educate and support her community with Kentucky hemp products. Her high standard with compassion has been noticed by communities and organizations with various awards. She continues to grow and partners with local companies to cultivate a wellness atmosphere. Learn the full story of 502 Hemp and Dee Dee Taylor.


Certified Cannabis Consultant & Store Manager

A Louisville native, Beth became involved with 502 Hemp through a mutual friend. With a particular passion for holistic health and years of experience as an R.N., working with 502 Hemp is a natural fit. Beth enjoys educating customers and thoughtfully answering their questions. Her favorite is when customers come back and share their stories. Beth has two dogs who are part of the 502 Hemp family too. Beth recently completed an online program with the University of Boulder to become the first 502 Certified Cannabis Consultant.

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Hey, happy hamsters. Welcome to the show. I know we took a little hiatus there for a little bit. We’ve been going nonstop here, so it was hard to find the time to actually get a recording in. So thanks for your patience. But yes, this is our latest episode. Your DV Taylor. I’m DD Taylor. Yeah, so we were sponsors for the Pegasus or the Kentucky Derby Festival. Yeah, Kentucky Derby Festival. Everything. Everything at all the events. And then I had some personal issues happen. So we can talk about that briefly. I don’t mind sharing with our listeners, but my poor husband ended up having a seizure in April and it was kind of weird and out of the blue and just kind of happened and all the stress for him and for me. And he usually ends up having a little bit of depression from it because just when he thinks he’s never going to have another one again, he’ll have, you know what I mean?

So it was kind of rough April for us. And then not even 30 days later, he had another one on May 5th, and I just, he is, had all the tests, nothing. They can’t find anything wrong with this man. He’s healthy as a horse. I have a theory that it could be his sugar bottoming out in the mornings because that’s the only time he has these. Has he been checking his blood sugar? No glucose. Do you think I need glucose monitor one of those little pricks himself? I dunno. He won’t like that. It’s not that bad. I mean, you only really have to do it a few times just to see, just to see if it’s that. I think that’s what it’s, I swear I do. I could probably get, he said he’d rather have one of those patches that stays on. You seen those to diabetics?

Yeah. I would almost rather him have that too, because any other time they check that, he’s fine. The sugars are fine. They say when seed levels are fine, everything. He doesn’t need that. But I swear, I think it’s his blood sugar in the mornings just low, not high, but low. Super low was causing that. It totally could. Theories. I have lots of theories. Well, you have to go through what it is not you do. And to find out what it is, his MI came back perfectly fine. Cat scan came back perfectly fine. EK, G, perfectly fine. All of his blood work all fine. So to me it’s got to be something, nutrition and I think sugar. So that’s my theory. So I’ve been having him drink a little shot of orange juice ever since. I’m like, just have some, just have a swig of it in the morning.

Keep that keeps you from having a seizure. I’ll buy you all the orange juice in the world because they’re horrific. They’re horrific. And I don’t wish them on anybody or see a loved one go through them. And it makes things super stressful for both of us. And I don’t want to take away from my husband because it happened to him, but he doesn’t know what he’s like. Right. You know what I mean? So he doesn’t know what I’m feeling or what I see and what I see him go through. So it’s rough. And you don’t want to record that at all. Anybody wants to see themselves and I wouldn’t want to show that to anybody. No, no. And oh God, I think that would just break his heart. I think it would too. Do you know what I mean? Because he has no clue. I’d rather just keep it that way.

I mean, yeah, I’ve thought about it mostly just to time it really, but I look at the clock the whole time. The whole time. But yeah, no, I couldn’t record that on him. No. And he doesn’t know who he is when he’s coming to, and that’s just, to me, that’s just me. Do you know what I mean? I wouldn’t want that out there in Meta World, Medicare, whatever. No, get released. Yeah, no. So anyway, that’s kind of why we’ve had a little bit of a hiatus on our podcast, so my apologies. But he’s doing fine. I mean, the man’s been working out. He is been losing weight. I mean all the good things. So there’s a part of me too that he could be under some stress that he just doesn’t realize he’s, he’s been doing some extra things for somebody. And I think that could have something to do with it too.

Who knows? Who knows? But then we all know how stress can manifests itself and hurts your body that firsthand too. So who knows? It could be a number, multiple things that could be causing it. But I just try to go play golf, dude, go play golf, go relax, go have some more C, b, D because I got him up, I think to a max dose fo. I don’t care. Don’t care. I just keep, give him more. But hopefully he starts going on a different path and we can figure that out. But yeah, at least he’s not taking all those prescriptions that cause all the bad things to happen with this and kidneys and things like that. And of course, because the one in April, he actually hit his head. So we ended up going to the va because you get a head wound and I’m sorry, but God only knows what that could lead to later.

So I always get that checked out if he happens to hit his head. He did. And there was blood involved too. I’m not a blood person. There’s a reason I wasn’t a nurse, but we went to the VA and they checked him and everything was fine, but it’s just, of course they wanted to put him on Keppra. And he’s like, no. They even had the pharmacist come in and talk to him. And he’s like, no, I don’t like the side effects. And the pharmacist was like, well, it’s very minimal side effects. And he’s just held that odd to take them. I can’t force him. I can’t force him to take him. He’s already been down that path. He has already been down there. Not with Keppra, but he hasnt tried Keppra. He’s never tried Keppra. He was on Lool, Dilantin and Phenobarbital. So he was on a crazy ass cocktail.

And those drugs killed him more so I think than the seizures. But that’s when he was super dad too and doing everything on his own. So he has a different life now, you know what I mean? But mean I’ve heard good things out of Keppra. I even talked to one of my pharmacist friends and she was a guest at one point. Dr. Amber can, I love her, hope she listens, knows how much I love her. But she and I talked briefly about Keppra, and she said that the biggest side effects just drowsiness and being tired. Well, John goes, that’s it. He goes, I’m already tired all the time. I don’t want to take a med to make me even more tired. And I mean, he has a CA, so his sleep apnea I think has something to do with it too, and his tiredness and all that.

And he’s getting older and I’m sorry, man, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the older you get, the less testosterone you have. So for all you guys listening, go get your T checked if you’re super tired and it doesn’t even matter if you can still get it up or not. It has nothing to do with testosterone. It does, but that’s not your low, that’s not the only thing that tells you you’re low on testosterone. But if you’re super tired, I’d say 50 and up. Usually it’s a low T thing. So that’s my thought on that too. We’re going to leave that there because my husband might get a little upset. We talk about this stuff. I doubt he listens. It’s so frustrating because you all have come so far. I mean, you’ve built businesses on finding that cure for his seizures.

So yeah, I won’t call it a cure. Well, exactly, not a cure, but I mean, in comparison to what he was going through before, it’s helped immensely. It’s frustrating when you feel like you’re taking a step back and you’re like, well, what is causing that? It’s frustrating. It’s just frustrating because I’m the have to know why. You know what I mean? Trying to, in my head, it’s settled down now, but after the first one, I’m going through everything. Well, the second one, less than 30 days. Are you kidding me? I’m like, what did you do? Did he do this? In my head, I’m going through all these things and trying to figure it out. And I’m not a doctor, I’m not a neurologist. I don’t have any. But you know him very, very well. I do. I do. And I know his habits and I know what he does and what he doesn’t do.

And at first I thought maybe it was alcohol was causing issues because that can happen, especially for people that are prone to seizures. You really shouldn’t drink alcohol. I mean, you just shouldn’t. Should have a good diet, try and stay away from too much sugars. I mean, just exercise, workout, all the stuff that normal people should do anyway, not just people with seizures. But I don’t know that there’s any correlation to it. And he’s not, even when he does have, he only has a couple beers. So how in the world, a couple beers could cause a seizure beyond me. So I really don’t think that’s it. He, he’s drank other times and never had a seizure. So I don’t necessarily think that’s a correlation either. Thank God he doesn’t do hard alcohol. Then I would say I would change that. So I don’t know. So it’s just been kind of crazy for us.

And then lots of, well, lots of fucking legislative stuff going on. This episode I guess is going to be entitled stress, because this is what’s been stressing DEI out for a while, these regulations that are coming down the pipe. Oh my God. Yeah. So way back when, house Bill 5 44, we worked to get common sense legislation passed. So we could, because we won our Delta eight lawsuit in the state of Kentucky, and we worked with the governor’s office and with local legislators, Rebecca Raymer, representative Ramer, she wrote these regulations. And in the bill it’s 21 and up behind the counter, you got to have proper labeling, you got to do your COAs. And it gave a provision in there for the cabinet to work on further regulations. Well, the cabinet took it to the fucking extreme, y’all, and I’m going to cuss in this because when I read through this new set of rags that they have since sent out, I’m just absolutely appalled and floored by the shit that they put in there.

First of all, for all you that didn’t sign up originally to sell these products on their website, that doesn’t even give you a confirmation that you did it. Mind you, because I ended up doing it twice and I never got a confirmation registered as being a retailer selling products. But if you didn’t do that, these regs were dated April 24th, 2024. And if you didn’t sign up by April 27th, I’m not kidding, you owed $2,000 to be a licensed retailer for this year. So that is a hemp retailer. If you are selling hemp, hemp, Delta eight, delta nine, adult use cannabinoids. That’s what they’re calling Delta eight and Delta nine and others, they’re called adult use cannabinoids now. And if you didn’t sign up, you are SOL. And the worst part they put in there that you have to be a thousand feet from a school. I’m sorry, but most of the hemp retailers have been in business for five, six.

I mean most, not more than that, about four or five years. There was never that restriction. So you mean to tell me that now all of a sudden you’re breaking a law because if you’re not a thousand feet away from a school, unless you signed up prior to April 27th, then they were going to grandfather you in. Well, what about the people that didn’t get a copy of these regs and have no fucking idea? So now they’re shit out of luck. Oh, stores in Kentucky through the Commonwealth theft, I bet there is about 10,000 stores that sell these products. And that is a low ball guesstimate, truly because not only are they stations, gas station, yes, right? Liquor stores everywhere, liquor stores, gas stations, vape stores, wellness centers. So I guarantee you they have not signed up. 100% guaranteed. So tell your friends that own these stores.

Yeah, you definitely need to read the regs. It’s 9 0 2 KAR 4 5 0 1 2 E, and they have them for the hemp dispensaries, retailers. So the retail establishments, they have ’em for the processors and then they have them for the labs. And there’s so much stuff that you have to read and go through, not only a $2,000 fee per year to be a licensed retail establishment, but it’s $200 per skew per product. So that means $200 per product. You have to include your label, you have to include the q and r code. There’s a whole bunch of stuff you have to include that’s on adult use, cannabinoid, adult use, cannabinoids, Delta hhc. Okay. Oh, just wait. There’s more rules for that too. But then also they’re trying to say that you got to pay another $250 for every event you go to. What the fuck people, we do a lot of events. We do a lot of events. I feel like this is directed right at me. It does seem that, doesn’t it.

Here you go. Let’s just throw some more fees on you. You’re making all this money, but you know what, a lot of these community events, I don’t make shit. They’re community events. It’s going there to, I’m not going there to necessarily sell products. So for me to pay another 50 at an event, yes, man, that is bullshit. I can’t even express how much bullshit that is. So this is the Cabinet for Health and Human Services that is going to oversee this. Yes. So they’re saying these fees are going into for operation purposes, enforcement and operations. See, that’s the thing. Here’s the kicker, the general assembly and the legislators didn’t allot any money for any of this. So they’re trying to get it out of all the small businesses that are selling these products. So first off, our state has a fucking surplus of funds in their general, whatever it is, there’s plenty of money in there. So if you add new regulations, you should be able to fund those fund forth out of all the money that’s already sitting there from taxpayers not trying to take it out of fucking small businesses. That’s ridiculous. It is so ridiculous. It makes me want to puke.

I helped write the regs. I’m all for regs. They makes sense, right? But what are you, yeah, it’s money. It’s all about fucking money. They even talk about it in there, how much it’s going to cost and enforce all this stuff. 1.5 million, whatever, whatever. Well, not only do processors have to pay to get licensed through the Kentucky Department of Agriculture, they also have to get a license through the cabinet for Health and Family Services and go through all that shit. And it’s another 3000 fee. No, you can’t afford to be in business. There will not be any new, well, it makes me think that they just want to completely get rid of all hemp in Kentucky attacking on all these fees to this shit. And then they said that all persons located out in another state or country who deliver ship or cause or ship anything shall hold a valid hemp cannabinoid wholesaler or distributor permit.

And that’s a thousand dollars. By the way, how the fuck are they going to get Charlotte’s Web to pay that fee or mood? Because those are all that damn company’s all over Facebook selling their shit, shipping all over the country, all over. So how the hell are they going to enforce that? That is such bullshit. And then to only give anybody three days to get registered when it didn’t even hit my desk until May 1st. I don’t know. But that kind of sounds like a lawsuit to me. I’m so not happy with all of this stuff. But however, if you all want to get on and make public comments, there is a period for doing that. June 24th at 9:00 AM It’s a zoom call. You can get on there and express your feelings about all of this bullshit. And by all means, please read the rug so you know exactly what to say and voice your opinion.

There won’t be any arguing. You literally just say what you don’t like about this, what you want changed about this, how this is going to hurt all of the small retailers. And please know that myself and the rest of the Kentucky App Association, we are working on this. So don’t think that this is just going to get past pasted to the wayside or whatever, but it is. You need to email Krista Quale, she’s the policy analyst, and her email is C as in Charlie, H as in hell, F as in Frank, S as in Sam regs, REGS, at Send her an email, tell her you want a Zoom link to be a part of that meeting on June 24th at nine o’clock. Again, that email is C-H-F-S-R-E [email protected]. Honestly, I’m going to be on there. I won’t be cussing. I’ll at least try not to.

And I have my list of all of my issues with all of this bullshit because yeah, they don’t do this for alcohol or firearms or cigarettes. And here’s the thing, if you’re selling vapes in the state of Kentucky, you’re already paying a fucking extra fees. Lots of licenses. Yeah, lots of extra license for that. There’s extra fees for that, extra taxes if you want to keep this from being sold to kids, if that truly is what they’re trying to do, which I call bullshit. That’s what they keep saying. That’s what they always say. Every legislator’s excuse. It’s bullshit. Keep it out of the damn gas stations. That’s who you should keep it from being sold at because they’re the ones, no, I don’t want to say this, but I’m not going to, I’ll keep that to myself. But they are the ones that do not card for vapes.

They sell hemp flour, they sell pre-rolls, they sell all of that stuff at gas stations and all of high milligram cannabinoid bins. I dunno what you’re buying. It’s too much. It is too much. It’s dangerous. It’s so dangerous. And people do not understand that part. But there was this, I think we talked about this in the last podcast about the Skittles that this little boy got because the mom thought they were Skittles. They’re just laying right there. She buys ’em for ’em. The damn clerk doesn’t say anything about it. That kid eats a whole bunch of Delta, whatever it was, infused Skittles like Skittles unquote. And yeah, he had some issues. He had some issues, had to go get a stomach pumps, all kinds of shit. Yeah, I mean, that’s how you protect the kids. Let gas, don’t let be sold at a gas station.

I think all these products should be sold at a 21 and up place. I don’t necessarily think that I need to have a special license to sell these products, especially since I’ve been doing it for almost eight years now. Not necessarily as 5 0 2, but I’ve been selling these products for over eight years. That’s fucking insane. And to all of a sudden put in there about a thousand feet from the school, that’s some slick willy shit right there. But that’s what they’ve done. Every time we tell them what our industry should have or what they shouldn’t do to us, they add more to it and more fees to it. And that’s the problem I have. So every time I go back in there and a bitch about something, what they’re doing or doing wrong, it seems like they just keep out. And I swear, I feel like it’s geared towards myself because I’ve got such a mouth about it.

But I also feel like one standing up for everybody and you’re following all of this, and there’s a lot of people that aren’t I know, and it’s scary. And a lot of those people are going to get in trouble. And then they even put in there that they can find you and they can press criminal charges against you and fine you. Come on, get the hell over yourselves. These are federally legal products. They’re even legal in this state based on the lawsuit. So if you want funds to be the enforcers for this stuff, get it from the fucking surplus that we have in this state. And I will commend Governor Beshear for that and for the fact that he has managed to balance our budget and even gives raises to the teachers that need it. I will totally give him kudos for that. But at the same time, governor, you need to check on your cabinet about to hurt a lot of small businesses that sell hemp products, that sell legal hemp products that have been in this business for the right reasons and to do the right things.

And it’s going to hurt so many people and a lot of people are going to be out of business because of it. That hurts the consumers. It does hurt the consumers. You’re cutting down your options, your choices, and only if it’s approved products, man, what the hell? I should be able to sell whatever damn product want, as long as I know that it’s safe, safe and effective. And they do the testing. What the hell I got to have it approved. Come on. Are you all going to test it? Are you going to eat it and try it out and make sure it tastes good? Whatever that just gets. So what’s going to get approved? Does it have to come from a tobacco company company? Is that the only way? Oh, smack probably. Are you kidding? Probably. Because we all know who pays the bills here anyway. Yes. So it’s one thing. It’s always one thing or another. And I get so frustrated because, and some things just move so slow and I want things done. If I want ’em done, I want ’em done now. I do not like waiting when I ask him, I do something, I want it done. Now I know I can’t help it harder.

I get low and slow and you’re like, I need it done now. I don’t want to wait. I want it done now. So yeah, it’s hard for me. It’s hard for me to be patient. It really is. So I’m testing my patients right now with all of this stuff that we’re working on through the hip association, and it’s just a little frustrating on my end because obviously it’s bullshit and I don’t want to waste my time and I don’t want to waste retailers’ monies on a lawsuit or even on ’em paying all this kind of stuff. I think it’d be better if they need the money that bad. Do a consumer tax, do a hemp tax. I mean, that’s what we do for, right? That would be okay, right? Yeah. Or we raise the prices to cover that hemp tax. What’s really going to piss people off?

If I’m stuck paying all these fees, what do the hell do you think I’m going to be able to recoup? I’ll have to increase my prices and then we can get more shitty reviews on Google because of that. That happened overpricing, but whatever. That’s my fault. Our pricings great, right? MSPs, but hey, whatever. If you’ve never owned a business, you wouldn’t know. So that’s kind of how I will leave that one. We’ll just leave that one right there. Because you’ve never had a business. You have no clue. And you shouldn’t say shit about their pricing. I mean, you really shouldn’t. Well, if you don’t want to buy it here, don’t buy it here. Don’t buy something and then say, leave a bad Google Review. I paid too much. Doesn’t make you sound bad. Not really. Like, oh, whatever, whatever. We’ll just let that one go.

I know better instead of my customers and quality matters, and you have to pay for quality. Quality is not cheap. And I’ll never ever go back on that just to make more money and buy something at a cheaper price that hasn’t been the testing, that isn’t good product just to make more money. That is not me. That’s not who I am. I have integrity and quality matters, and you have to pay for quality, quality cost. That’s kind of how I look at that one. But anyway, if you guys have questions about these regs, by all means reach out to us, info at 5 0 2 If you want me to give you that link on who you need to email or express your opinions about all this stuff or need to know what the KAR is, I’m more than happy to share all that information with you. Make sure you like, follow, share, comment, do all the fun things on our socials and on YouTube, subscribe. Yes, make sure you subscribe and all that good stuff. And yeah, we’re all about education. So if you have questions and you want answers and you want us to talk about something specific on our podcast, by all means let us know. Leave us come in or shoot us an email. Yeah, exactly. Talk about it. Exactly. So thanks for listening to everybody, have a hip and happiness wonderful day, and take care of yourselves and each other.

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